The Secret Drug That The Stars Are Using To Get In Shape (#406)

Shaan Puri

Yep, welcome back to the greatest podcast in the world! You've made a decision to click play, and now you're going to learn things. You're going to laugh, and you might even get a little teary-eyed at the 42-minute mark.

Sam Parr

that is true also that's

Shaan Puri

a prediction by the way because we haven't got there yet

Sam Parr

Yeah, but that's like the whole point of the podcast. It's about predicting things. Your sweatshirt looks great! Is that kind of who you are? You're that stupid dog who says, "Is he?"

Shaan Puri

is he stupid

Sam Parr

or is

Shaan Puri

he a monk

Sam Parr

So, one of my business partners, Joe, has that framed on his wall because this is who I am: I'm calm when there is fire.

Shaan Puri

You know what? I'm out on the graph that shows, "This is what you think progress looks like. This is what progress actually looks like," and it's like a squiggly line instead of the straight up and to the right line. I'm out on that.

Sam Parr

what does it look like

Shaan Puri

on that what

Sam Parr

what's it look like

Shaan Puri

No, it's correct. I'm just out on the graphic. Like, we know. If you don't know that by now, like, if you're over the age of 25, you actually have to report that comment as spam when you see it on LinkedIn. You can't like it; you have to say, "Flag this as redundant." I learned this 15 years ago, and I got it the first time I saw it. I never needed to see it again.

Sam Parr

Dude, I haven't run Facebook ads in a couple of years. But when I did, I think that if just one person clicked "flag as spam," that had a meaningful difference on the ad. Is that still the truth?

Shaan Puri

I don't know because that's hard to say. It's like a black box now, so it's really hard to know. But, dude, you gotta just fire up the old ad manager once in a while and take it for a spin.

Sam Parr

well what I used to do is any competitor I would always click flag as spam

Shaan Puri

yeah I was gonna say there's only one reason you know that yeah

Sam Parr

I would do it constantly because when I was running the ads, I would have an ad set that got seen by like 10,000,000 people. I would notice that if 2 people clicked, that would actually make a meaningful difference in the CPM and click-through rate. So whenever I learned that, I thought, "Oh, every time I see someone I don't like, flag, flag, flag."

Shaan Puri

It's honestly a miracle that Morning Brew succeeded, given that you were doing this. More credit to them, actually.

Sam Parr

I created 8 accounts just to flag them

Shaan Puri

alright let's we before

Sam Parr

we get in we do have to remind everyone about the gentleman's agreement

Shaan Puri

So, in fact, what you were saying about reporting things and clicking buttons, it just did remind me of the **Gentleman's Agreement**.

Sam Parr

and what is the agreement

Shaan Puri

The agreement is... think of it as an agreement. Think of it as a firm handshake done digitally between two gentlemen. One gentleman says, "I will provide an unlimited, free-flowing, all-you-can-eat buffet of content for the low price of $0, as long as you go to YouTube, type in 'My First Million,' and click subscribe." I'm not just saying that so we get more subscribers; I'm saying that so you get more of the content that you need. I'm just looking out for you. And so, that's just what one gentleman does for another.

Sam Parr

We dedicate our lives to this podcast. You spend 15 seconds to click "subscribe." It's like that's the gentleman's agreement. We can't go to your computer and check that you're doing this. So if you watch more than one episode, you owe it to us. That's just the agreement.

Shaan Puri

Yeah, it's more like a Santa, you know, "naughty or nice" list thing. You just need to do it, just in case.

Sam Parr

So please do that for us. We work hard on this semaglutide. Do you want to talk about this?

Shaan Puri

I've been wanting to talk about this

Sam Parr

I'll be fairly open about semaglutide. I decided I will. So, you told me, "Let's talk about semaglutide," and I feel a little bit vindicated because I've been telling you about this thing. This happens a lot.

Shaan Puri

I want to say, a couple of months ago... you think it was a couple of months ago? Let's just say, a couple of months ago.

Sam Parr

it was a little longer than that it was more like

Shaan Puri

Sam goes, "Dude, I'm getting in insane shape right now." It was after the recording. Sam usually unloads like one or two bombshells, and he's like, "Dude, I'm taking these drugs." I was like, "What?" And he's like, "Yeah, I took this stuff. It's amazing! I don't want to eat any sugar anymore."

Sam Parr

Hold on, we have to... Let me set a little bit of the stage here. I like testing new products, and that oftentimes includes body stuff. I'm just a fiend for testing stuff. I love testing *everything*, and I'm not opposed to injecting myself with stuff in order to test it. Just like I'm not opposed to buying a $2,000 thing to test it. I just... I love new technology.

Shaan Puri

There are clinical trials. They go through Phase 1, Phase 2, Phase 3, and then to SAM. That's actually how drugs get to market. After Phase 3, it goes straight to SAM.

Sam Parr

I said earlier on the podcast, if I drive to a place that claims to have the world's best coffee, I'm testing it. If I see something that says "0 symptoms miracle drug," I'm testing it.

Shaan Puri

So, okay, tell me... We'll explain what this is. There's a set of drugs, actually. I don't even really know the medical stuff here, and I don't know how to pronounce anything, so you can correct me where I'm wrong. But, well, first of...

Sam Parr

All right, let's preface this by saying none of this is 100% bro science. We're like a Wikipedia article and like three podcasts deep at best. So, take everything we're saying with a grain of salt.

Shaan Puri

yeah yeah yeah don't do anything we say okay continue on

Sam Parr

So basically, the background of this is that there was this drug created to help with diabetes. The way this works is that sugar cravings come from a blood sugar imbalance. When you eat sweets, carbs, or drink alcohol, your body releases insulin, which lowers your blood sugar to a lower level. However, when your blood sugar goes up and down, that makes you crave it more. If you've ever noticed that when you get off sugar or carb-heavy foods for 30 days, by week 2 or 3, you're like, "Great! I don't actually crave it anymore." But if you just taste it, you're like, "I need more! I need more!"

Shaan Puri

mhmm

Sam Parr

And so, there's this series of drugs that have been created for diabetes. You inject a very small amount of liquid—like, I could say what that is, but you wouldn't even know. It's enough to cover a quarter, just a very small amount, and you do it once a week. They did this trial about, I forget how many years ago, but they tested it with like 3,000 or 4,000 people. They gave people this drug, which was originally used for diabetes, but then they tested it for weight loss. They noticed that when they injected it into their body just once a week, over the course of around a year, they lost roughly 15% of their body weight. So, what does that mean? If you weighed 300 pounds on day one, after one year, you would weigh... what's that? 45 pounds? You lost 45 pounds in one year. People were talking about this, saying, "This is the craziest drug I've ever taken," because basically, it's an early drug, so we're not sure entirely of the side effects. This is like the big downside. But for the most part, the side effects were like, "My stomach hurt," and "I had some diarrhea." But then, after like two weeks, that went away. So, this drug, what it does is when you eat bad food, like sugar or something like that, or carbs, you can just eat a little bit of it and you feel full. You don't crave it anymore, and that makes it really fascinating. Ultimately, what it does is lower your calorie intake. For some people, eating 3,000 calories a day is pretty easy, but now it's like, "No, I feel super full after 2,000. I don't crave any more food."

Shaan Puri

Right, and this drug is being taken in the forms of Ozempic or Wegovy. There are all these brand names for the same drug or its class of drugs. It's being taken by tons of Hollywood celebrities and tech people.

Sam Parr

elon musk elon musk

Shaan Puri

said he was taking it who else there's a bunch of people that that have come kind of dude the

Sam Parr

Taking it, like, basically what's going on with this drug is that people were using it for diabetes. Then a couple of really famous people, including Elon [Musk], I think, and the Kardashians said they took it. Once that happened, the rest of the rich and famous started taking it. So, like, the woman from *The Office*, the Indian lady, Mindy or something.

Shaan Puri

that kalin yeah

Sam Parr

Yeah, there's a lot of people who think she's on it because she just lost a ton of weight. The New York Times and The Wall Street Journal separately each wrote articles saying that out in the Hamptons and out in LA and Hollywood, everyone is on this drug. Everyone automatically looks **£20** thinner than they did 6 months prior. It's been causing a shortage for the people who need it for diabetes.

Shaan Puri

yeah oat milk is out and ozempic is in that's right

Shaan Puri

so okay so this is this is

Shaan Puri

What's going on? So, you told me about this a few months ago, and like most things, I'm just like, "I don't know what Sam's talking about." It sounds a little crazy. I'm just going to sit this one out and see what happens. Then I hear about it again. I heard about it through one of the brand names. I didn't actually realize they were talking about the same thing you were discussing.

Sam Parr

who was talking about it

Shaan Puri

Dude, I can't tell you how many random places I have heard this. Then I'm on TikTok, and there's a TikTok doctor talking about it. I click the comments, and literally, the comments are all from people with diabetes who are like, "This is why I can't get my drugs! What's going on?" By the way, there's a ton of people with diabetes who are experiencing issues because there's a shortage of access to these drugs right now. They're trying to keep up. So, okay, where do we want to go with this? There are a couple of things. Basically, you were ahead of the curve. You told me about this a couple of months before I started hearing about it. It's still not fully out there. I wanted to talk about it now because I think in 3 to 6 months from now, this is going to be a household name. A lot of people are going to know about this because it's going to be on, you know, CNN and Fox News. People are going to talk about it more. Celebrities are going to come out about it. There are going to be controversies about it. There are going to be all sorts of things. So...

Sam Parr

we wanna like call our shot and be like we talked about it early

Shaan Puri

yeah we should've talked about it right when you said it

Sam Parr

and dude it was june by the way for it I we I started learning about it in june

Shaan Puri

Yeah, six months ago. Oh man, so you've been way ahead of the curve. Okay, so tell me about this miracle drug. Now, I'm like, you know, most people are skeptical initially about a miracle drug. So can we talk about it? I guess, have you looked into the science and the side effects? I asked a doctor friend, and he goes, "Yeah, these drugs are super effective. They work. There's no... I don't know of any kind of known downsides to taking them right now." But also, they're so new. So, you know, we'll see ten years from now. What if everybody's small intestine is shriveled up into like a little pea? And then we ask, "What happened?"

Sam Parr

Well, that's the downside. This particular drug, I don't actually think it's that new. These types of things have existed for, I believe, a couple of decades. However, it is new on a bigger scale. I read about an original study that tested this on 2,000 or 3,000 people. They found that the side effects for some people include muscle cramps or stomach cramps, and some things where you're just uncomfortable for 2 or 3 weeks. For me, when I started toying around with it, I got really cold. I was freezing all day and wanted to wear a coat. I thought that was just because I was at 9% body fat, but I think it was partially due to the drug. There's another concern where it might cause thyroid cancer, but that doesn't seem statistically significant, at least not to the point of causing true concern. I think the biggest concern is... I don't know, you know?

Shaan Puri

I mean, we just don't know yet. Okay, so fair enough. And we're not... that's not our specialty, so let's not talk too much about it. Let's talk about some of the... I want to talk about the business side, and then I want to talk about your other experiments that you've done.

Sam Parr

Oh, wait, hold on. You know what's interesting though about this? Why this is going to be big, I think. Dude, I think that there's a world where this could cure obesity. So, there was one downside, which is like the study that everyone lost this weight on after they quit taking it.

Shaan Puri

it the downside is if you were into obesity

Sam Parr

Yeah, no dude, the downside was like people gained weight after they quit taking it. They gave back like two-thirds of the weight. So, if you don't actually use it to create habits, then when you get off of it, you're just going to get fat again. But I think there's a world where it helps get rid of obesity. I also think there's a world where it could help cure alcoholism. Dude, there have been people posting, "I like your way is the way." I find all this stuff by going to forums, which we could talk about in a second. But people are like, "I'm an alcoholic and I started taking this, and I don't crave alcohol anymore."

Shaan Puri

like what's the name of a forum like reddit or you're talking about like deep forum like bodybuilding.com or something

Sam Parr

Yeah, yeah. So like, it could be a body... I will go to Bodybuilding.com, or there's a Reddit called Semaglutide. There's a Reddit called Ozempic and Wegovy. There are subreddits for all of them. How many people are part of the Reddit for Semaglutide?

Shaan Puri

let's look right now so there are

Sam Parr

14,000 numbers

Shaan Puri

not that many so that's pretty low that's not

Sam Parr

What we're looking for... but that's cool. That's enough people that like it. It gets pretty interesting. Then there's another one for each brand name.

Shaan Puri

Oh, is that $19,000? So, here’s some kind of crazy business stuff. To me, I'm like, "Wow, there's a miracle drug that helps you lose weight easily and almost guaranteed." Tons of people, including a bunch of celebrities, are doing it. This thing is gonna fly! Sure enough, the supply starts getting constrained because too many people are trying to get it. Have you heard of some of these brands that are trying to get it to you and how great they're doing right now?

Sam Parr

they call it the norvo the the european company and then like the like just the big pharma

Shaan Puri

The maker of it... So I was looking and I thought, "How do I benefit from this financially?" I was like, "I'm not taking this drug, but how do I make some money?" That's a different drug. So I looked into the maker of it, the stock, and then I was like, "Okay, well, how are people getting this today?" So, first search: if you search "Ozempic," there's a company called Calibrate. Calibrate has some crazy stats. Let me just send you or let me just mention calibrate.com. So, Calibrate basically has a landing page that says "Ozempic online weight loss prescription." It's a safe doctor of Thrive GLP-1 thing. You know, see if you're eligible. Then, basically, you get... it's like telemedicine. You get a call, you get a prescription, and you get the weight loss drug. They are currently valued at about $450 million. This company, in less than 24 months, has basically scaled to about a $50 million run rate.

Sam Parr

no way really

Shaan Puri

Kinda crazy. So, June and July 2020, it's a 0. July 2021, it's less than... like, you know, it's tiny. And then it's gone up. I wanna say, what is this?

Sam Parr

how did you see this

Shaan Puri

I can't really say, but it's gone up, you know, **10x** in a year. So that's kind of crazy. They project, you know, by the end of this year they'll be at **$60,000,000**, and by the end of next year they'll be at **$140,000,000**.

Sam Parr

So, semaglutide costs about $500 a month. When you take it, you're like, "This is dope! I don't want to quit taking this," right?

Shaan Puri

you're like hey turn off the heater I gotta speak for ozempic

Sam Parr

Well, it's like, what would you pay to be ripped? You know what I mean? You'll pay a lot.

Shaan Puri

Yeah, yeah. You know what I turns out I won't do? Inject myself with a, you know, kind of new-ish drug. But, you know, I think I'm in the minority here. It looks like the majority of people are doing it. So there's this company, NextMed. "Obesity is a disease, not a choice. We will help correct your body chemistry with this drug." Okay, that's pretty strong marketing. So that's the first part. People are going to Google search this thing like crazy. If you go to Google Trends right now and you search for like "Ozempic" or you search "semaglutide," you just see it's basically going up, up, up, up, up. And then the Google Trends, you know, they do this forecast where it's like a dotted line, and the dotted line is going straight up to 100.

Sam Parr

is it really

Shaan Puri

Yeah, they're like, "This thing is gonna fly." I think there's going to be a lot of people doing this. If you are creating content that includes reviews, scientific summaries, and FAQs about these drugs, I believe you can make a killing right now. If you can rank high on SEO or on YouTube with your reviews and scientific summaries, you will then be able to affiliate link out that lead. If it's $500 a month and people are staying on this thing for multiple years, you might be getting paid, you know, $3,000 a lead or $10,000 a lead or something like that. It could get kind of crazy depending on the lifetime value of these things. So, I think that someone who creates content for those Google searches is going to do really, really well. If I go search... I haven't looked at all the SEO tools for this, but...

Sam Parr

Well, a lot of the content I found when I researched this like crazy—using YouTube and a bunch of different sources—was mostly for women who are overweight. You know, it's overweight women. I went in thinking, "Okay, but what does this drug do for fit men?" I was curious about that niche. Like, okay, cool, if you're some podcaster, there's a category niche for the "guy next door," you know what I mean? But I was looking for information like, "Alright, so if you're 300 pounds, this could make you 200." But, you know, I don't need to be less fat. I just want to know how to...

Shaan Puri

I got a B-face and a B+ body. Yeah, where am I going after this?

Sam Parr

How can a Missouri 8 become like a New York 7? That's just what I wanted to know. That was the niche I was trying to learn about, but there's not that much content. There's some content about it on YouTube with Joe Rogan and More Plates More Dates talking about it. Huberman is beginning to talk about it a little bit, but there's not a significant amount.

Shaan Puri

Right. I also think that owning a Facebook group of people who are trying these things out is beneficial.

Sam Parr

would

Shaan Puri

Be even batching it by month, like November. You know, Ozempic bunnies, and it's like, "Here we go! We're all going in. How's everyone doing?" Oh my god, it's amazing! "Oh, you're on the fence? Click this link and you can get in." You know, like, "Here's how it works." I think that there are a bunch of different ways to be an affiliate for this stuff. So, I think that is going to do well. Plus, obviously, the companies that are selling this stuff directly.

Sam Parr

and you don't wanna take this you're not you're not on board

Shaan Puri

I'm fine. I'm not completely against the idea of taking it; I just play it safe when it comes to health stuff. I play it safe more than anything else. If there are a lot of unknowns and it sounds a little too good to be true, I just have to wait. You know, if I get shredded next year, it's fine. If I wait this out for two years, that'll be okay.

Sam Parr

is look all I'm saying is

Shaan Puri

Really, if it’s going to make it so that nobody gets fat anymore, then honestly, being shredded isn’t going to mean anything anyway. So that’s how I feel about it.

Sam Parr

you're just fighting the advances of of modern science at your own loss you know what I mean yeah

Shaan Puri

I'm like a flat earther of of the body

Sam Parr

Well, we should say that I do think being natural has its pros and cons. People often say, "I don't want to take drugs," implying that natural is better. I think that's actually a stupid argument because I can go eat some seeds that are natural, and they can kill me. Also, if you're sick, do you do chemotherapy? Of course you do. So, where do you draw the line as to what you will and will not do? I love testing drugs and trying out all of my new products because I actually want to find out where my line is. You could say, "Well, I'm not going to drive a car that's not natural," and it kills people. But I'm like, "Yeah, but cars are pretty cool." It kind of makes it worth it. I challenge people to ask themselves. For them, they may say, "Well, I just don't want to take anything," and I think that's great—do what you want. But I always find it interesting when people say they're unwilling to take a certain drug. I'm like, "Well, you drink Coca-Cola or take Advil. Where are we going to draw the line?"

Shaan Puri

Yeah, we're going to draw the line at things that I already thought were normal. New things? Stay out. That's the cool reality.

Sam Parr

I'm what you call dug in. I've made up my mind, and I am not changing, okay?

Shaan Puri

I have mental cleats and I'm in the ground right now

Sam Parr

alright where do we go from here

Shaan Puri

Let's move on to other things. Oh, wait, wait! Let's finish up with the weird things that you've explored that are not so difficult. So, dude, this looks too good to pass up.

Sam Parr

So, vaping weed... I was on that trade since 2004. Nowadays, I was like, "Well, I want weed, but I don't want to smoke." I was never really a weed guy, but I remember thinking about this and I'm like, "I don't really even like this drug." The whole smoke thing seems weird. So, years ago, I bought a thing where I was trying to research this like crazy. There are vaporizers, but there's this thing called a Volcano. You know what that is?

Shaan Puri

no

Sam Parr

It's like a $600 vape device that would put vapor into a plastic bag, and you would toss it around the room. I thought that was stupid. So, I went and found this woodworker who made an oven that you light on fire. It's basically like a meth pipe for weed. It heats the weed to a certain temperature, and it turns into vapor. I thought, "Portable vapes, this is going to be a thing." Then, like, Pax came out.

Shaan Puri

How far ahead of the curve are you on that? So, you started vaping in 2004? That's crazy! When did vaping become popular? I feel like that was like 5 years ago.

Sam Parr

Five years ago, I was all about babies. The other thing I thought was going to be a trend was vaping. I learned about vaping alcohol, but it turns out there's not much science to it. Butt chugging is actually the way to go. I was curious about whether you can actually get drunk off of vaping, so I remember waiting to...

Shaan Puri

We gotta put up the picture of you with the incredible hichten versus you now. This is like an Ozempic infomercial.

Sam Parr

how did you feel about that that's pretty messed up right

Shaan Puri

what's what's pretty messed up your your before picture

Sam Parr

So basically, I posted a before picture on Twitter, and my before picture looks like I'm Kid Rock's nephew.

Shaan Puri

Honestly, the picture looks like somebody is staging a "before" picture. It's like, "Alright, how do we make this as crazy as possible?" Like, yeah, it looks like they turned the knob up all the way. Somebody said it looks like that guy definitely has a couch on his lawn.

Sam Parr

style said that

Shaan Puri

was so good

Sam Parr

Later that day, I saw a guy get shot in his leg with an AK-47 in a drive-by. It was the most hectic part of my life.

Shaan Puri

I was like, this guy definitely has a loose, you know, hot dog in his pocket right now just to be...

Sam Parr

a little bit more

Shaan Puri

You know, you are a man of progress. You're a symbol of progress, so that's amazing. The other thing you said is that you're taking some like crazy wonder drug for your Achilles right now. Do you want to talk about that or no?

Sam Parr

I'm looking into this thing, and I've tested it out a little bit. It's called BPC-157. It's a peptide, which is... it's hard to... I'm not a doctor, I don't even like explaining this stuff, but it's basically like an amino acid, and it... okay...

Shaan Puri

we we have no public math maybe we should also have no public science

Sam Parr

Well, here’s why I started getting interested. I began reading on Reddit, specifically on the peptide subreddit. This guy mentioned, "My shoulder has been hurting me for 20 years, and I injected myself with this thing. Like three days later, I have zero pain." I’ve complained for like five years that my Achilles and my calf are always in pain. So I thought, "Screw it, this one Reddit guy, I’m going to try this out." And so I did it. My calf feels amazing; I have zero pain, dude! So that’s my experience. I think, and this is kind of what I wanted to talk about, that you can find patterns in non-quantitative places. For example, Facebook groups, forums, article comments—comments on sites like Vox or CNN when they post their articles on Facebook. Looking at the comments, 90% of it is total nonsense, but there’s something interesting about repeatedly seeing certain things. Here’s a really controversial one that was controversial at first, but now we’re like, "Maybe it’s not bad." When I follow all political spectrums on Facebook, I can see what articles are trending. I’m like, "Wow, Fox keeps posting about the Wuhan lab and a virus coming out of it." I think, "What? No, it doesn’t come out this way." But why do they keep saying this?

Shaan Puri

like it can't be true someone ate a bat in their soup and that was what happened

Sam Parr

Yeah, that's what I thought. But this is just one example where nowadays we're like, "That's actually plausible, maybe." So what I try to do is, whenever I see these crazy things, I try to identify the repeated pattern. I ask myself, "What is the evidence?" Not, "These people are crazy," or, "This is stupid." For instance, if I hear about a drug or a product, I used to say, "You're just nuts. You're insane. You don't know anything that you're talking about. Just be normal." Now I say, "Well, why are you saying that? Is there any evidence?" Here's an interesting example: I'm not a political guy, but it just so happens that political things are way easier to analyze because there are way more of them. I saw this crazy Instagram handle say that Putin has cancer and he's close to dying. That could be total nonsense, but I'm like, "That's really weird that someone would say that." So I went and researched it. Then I found out, "Oh wow, he did cancel two events recently." So I understand why you could jump to that conspiracy. It's just interesting to see new ideas pop up and patterns that repeatedly happen, and then to ask yourself why. That's typically how I find a lot of interesting trends. Another one is, do you remember when keto was really popular?

Shaan Puri

yeah

Sam Parr

Dude, keto's dead. Keto's gone. Like, I would bet—I haven't looked at it—but go to Google Trends right now and type in "keto." I bet you it looks like a mountain. We're on the right side of the mountain where it's going down. You just start seeing these trends where people are like, "Who does keto anymore?" You start seeing these things, and I find that so fascinating. It's interesting to figure out where these subcultures are on the internet and what people who are considered "freaks" believe. Actually, which one of their controversial opinions is going to prove to be true in, you know, a couple of years?

Shaan Puri

You know, I gotta give it to you. When you first started saying that you saw a guy on Reddit say that his shoulder pain went away and then you injected yourself, I thought to myself, "This guy's an idiot." But now I realize I misjudged you. You're a biohacker; we just needed to change flavor.

Sam Parr

we just we just went from mayonnaise to aioli and I love it

Shaan Puri

That's all you needed. You didn't even have to say, "Yeah, I just take random drugs from dudes recommended by strangers on the internet." You needed to say, "I'm part of the biohacker community." Yeah, you know?

Sam Parr

It's like Indiana... fantastic! Indiana Jones rebranding a male purse. He nailed it! That's what I need.

Shaan Puri

Alright, let's go to the next one. Okay, I got something kind of interesting for you. Speaking of Indiana Jones, I saw a clip of the new Indiana Jones trailer. I don't know if you've seen this. Have you seen the new movie trailer for Indiana Jones?

Sam Parr

no I I play sports and workout and stuff

Shaan Puri

so in there

Sam Parr

watch like wizard movies well

Shaan Puri

yeah indiana jones top five wizard

Shaan Puri

he so it's played

Shaan Puri

By Harrison Ford, right? But you know, Indiana Jones is like the remake, but it's Harrison Ford again. In the trailer, there's this one scene where Harrison Ford, who you know, looks like... you know, somebody calls him "Papa" now. He's a little older, but he rewinds the clock and looks like young Harrison Ford in the scene. I was like, "Oh, how did they do that?"

Sam Parr

The technical term, by the way, for people of that age is "gray bush." So that's the preferred nomenclature. Show some respect.

Shaan Puri

Okay, yeah, my bad. Pronouns are **they/them**. So, I was like, "How did they do that thing where they made him look young in that one scene?" That was pretty, pretty cool. I found out that the South Park guys have a company around this. Have you seen this? The guys who created South Park have this company called **DeepVoodoo**.

Sam Parr

and they've raised a lot of money for it

Shaan Puri

They raised $20,000,000, and what they're doing is creating deep fake technology for movies. They're like, "Yo, visual effects are expensive as hell. What if we can do it using AI and deep fakes?" The way this works is they were actually making a movie that required a lot of visual effects. They were kind of building this technology in-house for their own production. Then something happened—COVID happened. They shut down the movie, and so now the movie is not happening. But they were like, "Well, how do we turn this lemon into lemonade? How do we turn this failure into something that could be successful?" So they spun out the technology as its own company, and they're like, "Yeah, we're basically going to use this technology to make it easier to do visual effects." And then there's this... I put a link in our doc here. Oh no, I didn't put the link in, but there's a music video by... what's his name?

Sam Parr

kendrick lamar it was amazing

Shaan Puri

okay you've seen this video

Sam Parr

it was amazing yeah dude I was gonna I was I've been looking into this I was

Shaan Puri

You play sports, you exercise, and you also watch rap videos? Yeah, damn.

Sam Parr

I'm not a drama podcaster; I'm a cool podcaster, dude. The Kendrick Lamar music video is so good. It is so good; it's magic.

Shaan Puri

Use this technology. So what he's doing is, he's... I, he's described it like... you know it better than I do. I've only seen it once. It sounds like you actually saw it in the wild.

Sam Parr

Basically, it's just a close-up of Kendrick Lamar, and it's just him rapping.

Shaan Puri

So, it's Kendrick Lamar's "The Heart Part 5." It's him sitting in a chair. Yep, it starts off with him, and then at like the 1 minute 45 second mark, all of a sudden, his face just changes into O.J. Simpson.

Sam Parr

and it looks like

Shaan Puri

He's wearing the same shirt, the same hair; it's just his facial features changed to be identical to O.J. Simpson. But he keeps rapping, and it's not like, you know, sometimes you see these AI things where the mouth is not quite moving with the words. You would think that it'd be pretty hard to do with rap, but they did it. It looks perfect, and he looks like O.J. Then he changes into Will Smith, then he changes into Kanye, then he changes into Nipsey Hussle. He just keeps morphing. If you look at the bio, it says "Deep fake from Deep Voodoo." Special thanks to Matt Stone, Trey Parker, and Deep Voodoo for the production of this video. So that is pretty cool, and I think this is kind of amazing. These guys, you know, the South Park guys, that's kind of like... some people look up to Elon and they're like, "Oh, Elon is the best it can be career-wise. He's the Michael Jordan." For me, these guys are a little bit more like the Michael Jordan, man. The creation of South Park is amazing. The way they went about it, the way they poured their heart and soul into it. If you have ever watched that movie, "7 Days to Air," have you seen this movie? Yeah.

Sam Parr

it's awesome man tallest

Shaan Puri

Day to day, the show "South Park" produces each episode in just one week. Every episode is created in 7 days, and they follow a schedule from Monday to Saturday. Then, it's like, boom! The episode goes live, and alright, back to the meeting room tomorrow because we have to do another one. They do this for the whole season, which is how they stay super topical with their shows. Other shows can't do this because they film the entire thing over a longer period of time or animate it over a longer duration, so they can't address things that just happened. They also did "The Book of Mormon," and now they are crushing it with the Broadway play. Now, they're doing it with this product, this technology company, and this production company. I think they just signed a $900 million deal, by the way, with someone. So, these guys are just crushing it!

Sam Parr

what not what $900,000,000 deal

Shaan Puri

I think with Viacom, they signed a deal. I think for *South Park*, or I don't know if it's *South Park* or it's other shows too, but it's...

Sam Parr

That's crazy, dude! I wouldn't doubt if they're each worth something like $400,000,000. These guys are prolific, and they've done it for how long? I think South Park has been around for like 30 years.

Shaan Puri

and they're just 4

Sam Parr

sorry not 30

Shaan Puri

they're just friends dude it's great

Sam Parr

Yeah, they're great, man. And what's funny is these guys make like raunchy kid comedy, and they've never had a blemish. They've never really done anything wrong. The worst thing they've ever done is gone to, like, remember when they went to the award ceremony on LSD and they dressed up like J.Lo? So, there was an MTV Movie Awards where Jennifer Lopez wore this green dress that was, like, risqué and iconic. Whatever, the next year they dressed...

Shaan Puri

up on that wore that actually I do remember this yeah that dress is iconic so and

Sam Parr

They tell the story, they're like, "Yeah, we just took a bunch of LSD and decided to do that." They're hilarious! These guys are the best, and they're super prolific, man. They're awesome.

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Sam Parr

$1,000,000 isn't cool you know what's cool a $1,000,000,000

Shaan Puri

So, they signed a **$900,000,000** deal with ViacomCBS in August of 2021. *The Book of Mormon*, their Broadway play, has grossed **$500,000,000** in revenue. They just raised **$20,000,000** for this new deep fake company. Basically, they say deep fakes have this reputation of being problematic because there's going to be fake news and misinformation. However, they also believe it will be really important for Hollywood films. For instance, things like de-aging characters, like Harrison Ford in *Indiana Jones*, or the music video stuff that you saw. Their bet is that visual effects are too expensive, and that deep fake technology could make it much more cost-effective to do creative work. It's kind of crazy. They had a movie suspended due to COVID, so they pivoted the team and decided to provide deep fake tools to Hollywood. Before that, the thing they were making was a **14-minute** comedy featuring a deep fake version of Donald Trump, and that project got canned.

Sam Parr

did you just yawn during your own segment

Shaan Puri

I've been doing a lot of talking here. You know, another good South Park thing that I stole from them a long time ago is there's this video of them talking about storytelling. Have you seen this? They're like, "We have one trick when it comes to story, one rule when it comes to storytelling." It's like they're teaching a class on storytelling, and they go, "Anywhere you can say 'and,' and then this happened..." It's like, you know when a kid tells a boring story? They're like, "I came from school, and then my mom said this, and then she said I can have some candy, and then she got the candy." And then it's like, "This is the most boring story ever. Just, you know, kill me now." And then, yeah, you know, "and then" is a keyword where you're not providing any twists and turns that would make this an interesting story. You're just layering on more stuff, more stuff, more stuff. So they're like, "Swap that with a 'but' and 'therefore.'" Instead, you would say, "I came home from school and asked my mom for candy, but she wasn't home, and she's always supposed to be home. Therefore, I went outside and started saying, 'Mom, mom, mom, mom,' but the only person who was there was my neighbor, who's always creepy." So, "but" and "therefore" make for an interesting story, whereas "and then" makes for a boring story. They can literally take a script and just cross out all the sort of "and then" types of connector words and replace them with "but" and "therefore."

Sam Parr

So, someone tweeted, "Why do you like My First Million?" and we got like hundreds of replies. The common thread was that Sean just oozes and drips charisma. His storytelling is so good and is just addicting. Sam has a funny laugh. One guy goes, "Sean's got such good stories and he's such a great storyteller. Sorry, Sam."

Shaan Puri

Yeah, I don't know what was going on there. I think because I retweeted it, it was like, you know, people who like me, I guess, who were replying. But yeah, they were like, you know, they experienced the stories, whatever. I was like, I feel like your experience of stories and like crazy weirdness is what makes the podcast tick. I really believe that. Oh, here's another compliment I got for you. I was actually going to start the pod with this, but I forgot. When we were at that weekend retreat or whatever, I had asked somebody a question. I was like, because I'm trying to think about what to do in my life, right? I'm like, okay, so old milk road, thinking about what's next. I was like, okay, I think life comes down to like picking the right thing to want. So, like picking what you want and then bending reality to make it happen.

Sam Parr

yeah

Shaan Puri

And picking the right thing to want in the first place is almost even harder than becoming a reality bender. Like, I believe I'm a reality bender. That was hard, yeah, but that was the first 15 years. Now I realize, oh shoot, if I am a reality bender, I better pick right. So I asked somebody, "Man, who do we know? Who are examples of people that I feel like they pick the right things to care about and to work on? They pick the right goals, basically, and then they bend reality and make them happen." I thought I would have this handful, like just a basket full of examples that I could pull out for inspiration. What I found was that even the people who I think are super smart, most of them were picking like dumb things to think about, care about, and work on. They were not picking well. Then a bunch of people who picked well weren't ever going to bend reality to their will. It was like, "Yeah, I talked to him 5 years ago. He still wanted that." Here we are, 5 years later, you know? No real progress. They're still just trucking along, kind of like they haven't really figured out how to make it happen. So, I'll give you some examples of what I mean by this. We have a buddy—I'll kind of pick on him, but I won't say his name. He's very successful, probably worth, I don't know, $100 to $200 million. I feel like he has just been batting a thousand, like just had wins ever since the age of 24. The first thing worked in a small way, the next thing worked in a big way, and now he's doing a new thing. In between, he invested in a bunch of things—good investments. Now he's doing a new thing, and sure enough, it's working. He makes it look easy.

Shaan Puri

Where I was jealous I was like damn this person makes it look easy and I'm like but the problem is and I even told them this I go I feel like you beat the level of this video game and then instead of going on to the next level you just hit reset on your super nintendo and play that same level again mhmm and you're doing that thing where you're just almost like trying to speed run that same level like perfect you know like people who play mario and they're like I'm gonna perfect this level right it's like dude just go to the next level and have have a different adventure have an improved adventure right like more challenging or more interesting or just new and there at first they were like when I told them this they I was like they were starting a new thing it was working everybody else was patting them on the back being like you've done it again it's working I can't believe how easily you're able to make these things work and I was sort of like I feel that way but I also feel like you're playing the same level of course you're making this work again you already know how to do this they did a thing recently where they bought a company and they were super pumped that the company like and it's a great buy they made a great buy they bought a company it's not like they had a background buying companies they just did it they bought the right thing it wasn't available on the market they found the person they convinced them to sell it's making a few $1,000,000 of profit a year they they're gonna pay back their whole investment in you know 15 months or something like that it's a fantastic buy by all accounts but why why are they doing that what what does that bring to your life you're already worth you know a 100 to $200,000,000 this $2,000,000,000 a year of profit is not doing anything except for distracting you from maybe what you should focus on which would be something else and it's kinda nitpicking you know like a you know somebody who's you know amazing I think at a game so I I kind of don't want it to be I don't mean it in a negative way I just mean it in man it's really hard to find somebody who picks the right shit and knocks it out the park and what do I know as I'm brainstorming I'm like dude I think sam is that guy because and I thought of a couple people but I just like last night when I was thinking about this I was like dude sam is the best example let me tell you why I remember when you were like you've done a bunch of things where you're like I'm gonna motorcycle across america it was like like not what everybody else was picking you weren't just following up her you then immediately went and did it so you've done a bunch of things that like I feel like you were choosing you didn't just do what everybody else was doing and each one added to your like life value so it's like oh this trip across america right or this way to make a bunch of money you know because having a bunch of money gives me this like safety net and ability and ammo to go do cool stuff even after you so the newsletter was another one where it's like what the hell is this guy doing but you figured it out you bent bent reality to your will you made it happen and you were completely right right I I was like oh you're gonna do a content company and your answer is I'm gonna do better content and I was like where's the disruption where's the technology where's the new platform what's the what's the pitch and the pitch was like yeah like you ever read this stuff man it's dry it's boring it doesn't even like it doesn't speak to us and I was like your plan is to be less boring that was literally your business plan right like that was literally your pitch deck for the hustle it was like

Sam Parr

I called it the daily show effect

Shaan Puri

I was like

Sam Parr

when it's gonna be like a little funny

Shaan Puri

Yeah, I was like, "Dude, that is not a pitch." I remember I was trying to give you help. I was trying to help a friend. No, it turns out I needed the help.

Sam Parr

like so stupid it was so stupid I can't believe it worked if I'm being honest like I was right

Shaan Puri

In a way, it didn't become like a multibillion-dollar company because you were doing some crazy, crazy stuff. But it may not have been the right investment, so maybe I was right there. But who cares? Because you were like, "Dude, I'm gonna own 90% of this, and I'm gonna sell this. I'm gonna have, you know, like whatever, tens of millions of dollars in my bank account, which will let me live and do whatever the hell I want by the time I'm 30." And then, sure enough, it's exactly what you did. You built reality to your will. You picked the right goal. You were like, "I'm gonna have this huge financial war chest by doing the thing I know I'm gonna have fun with, build a cool brand, and meet a bunch of cool people along the way," like you did with Hustle Con. So you did that. Then you were like, "Alright, should I do this Airbnb thing?" You started thinking about luxury Airbnbs and short-term rentals, creating a portfolio there. I was like, "Wow, how does he think of it?" Again, that's not where most people are going with the next step of their career. And then you picked the thing you've chosen now, which we don't talk about too much, but I think it's the perfect project for you. It's the perfect project for where you're at. I'm like, "Damn, he did it again!" I even texted you this: "Your project selection was so perfect. All I can do now is try to think of the second-best project to pick for myself."

Sam Parr

and what was my reply to you did you remember

Shaan Puri

you oh you were like dude you had this you you know you stopped

Sam Parr

right or something like that yeah

Shaan Puri

Yeah, because I actually... I don't want to say too much because then it'll kind of give it away. But, like, I had prototyped the same idea and liked it. However, I was like, you know, I didn't have it all figured out and I wasn't really ready to go do a new thing. So, I just kind of took the quick win and moved on. You were just like, "Oh wait, that's like... you know, that's actually you figured out the right way to do it and you're doing it. It's amazing and it's gonna work." So, dude, I just want to say I think you're that guy. I think this is a really important thing to figure out: who are the people that you think choose the right things to focus on and then are able to bend reality to their will? Because that's like the one-two punch that is most important in life.

Sam Parr

and I think that well thank you for those compliments you got

Shaan Puri

By the way, one more thing. It's not just about work, right? It's like fitness. If we showed that before and after, you really made it a point to get in phenomenal shape health-wise. That's not just about your physical shape, but also about mobility, strength, and athleticism—things that actually reverse aging. Rather than just how many friends do we have that are only focused on stockpiling success and money. You meet them and you're just like, "Dude, you're just going downhill." The aging is going at double speed. So yeah, you're making more money, but you're doubling your age rate by the stress and the bad lifestyle that you're living. It's not good. That's very common, and I think you're uncommon in that regard. The last point is about family or relationships. How do you make it a priority to be good at that? Choose the right focus. Alright, I want to have this great family life and then bend reality to your will. I really respect that about you, and I think that's something I'm looking for more models of in my life because I now realize that that's the most important one-two punch.

Sam Parr

well thank you I think

Shaan Puri

not to make out with you on this podcast but yeah

Sam Parr

if you want like buy me dinner first but I think you got you you we flattered you with those tweets so you got your ego I was I was I messaged sean I go god these guys really hurt my feelings but I think the what I learned the reason why I'm able to do some of these things one I think it was guy ritchie he said something like you are the director of your own movie and whenever I heard that line I was like oh yeah like I don't like this game I'm playing but I also make up the rules so I'm gonna I'm gonna make the rules to my game I'm like it's like I only have myself to blame if I'm not happy because I'm I make the rules and so that kinda changed my perspective and another thing I was working with sofia amoruso she's the nasty gal this you know big company and then now she's got business classes new things she's her and I become great friends and that she was like hey I need some help with my 2023 goal setting and I was like cool here's my framework for doing this let's sit down and sit for an hour and do it and I was like sophia how are you so successful and you've never like written down like what you're proud of the previous year what you regretted what would make you happy to accomplish this year what those like I'm like I was like alright so here's how much money how much money do you wanna make what would make you happy okay that number alright great let's work backwards and have a plan alright cool what about I always do family fitness fun finance so I'm like alright what about relationships what what would make you proud and want a year to be alright let's do your body you know where do you wanna be physically let's write down a plan for that and like boom so we just set aside this time that was our worry time this was the time where we're gonna stress and we're gonna worry about what's gonna make us happy and we're gonna make a guess that boom that's gonna make us happy then we're gonna stress on this plan have we settled is the plan done the plan's done I'm not worrying about it anymore all I'm doing is executing this the worry time is done next quarter I'll give myself 8 hours on a sunday then I can worry then but between now and then there is no such thing as worry all that all that there is is I'm executing the plan the worry time already happened and I've got scheduled worry time in the future and so what I think a lot of people don't do is they don't spend enough time sitting down and saying what do I want what are the rules of the game that I'm going to play and let's create those rules and literally write them down and for the next some.

Sam Parr

Of time, I'm going to follow those rules as best as I can. Then, we're going to reassess: are those rules actually good? I don't think people do that systematically enough.

Shaan Puri

So, you said something like, "I didn't like the way that the movie was going," but then I realized, "I'm the director, and I could switch it." What was that? And what was the movie like before? What did you make to switch it?

Sam Parr

Well, you know, when I was between the ages of like 19 and 23, I had some substance issues and I got in trouble. I remember—this sounds really lame—but I remember watching a concert. It was actually Oasis, which makes it even lamer. They were singing a song, and I remember I was drunk in bed, watching this YouTube video. The singer was outputting very little energy, and yet there were 100,000 people in the crowd singing back to him. I thought, "Wow, that's leverage, man!" This guy wrote this song in his bedroom, and because it's such a good song and he has such an interesting personality, he has 100,000 fans as well as 40 million views repeating back the words to him, even though he's exerting a little bit of energy. That's leverage. That's the ideal way to live your life: to have leverage. I felt like I was wasting it. After I saw that, I remember changing my mindset. I thought, "I think I'm special enough to do something like that. I don't know how I'm going to do it, but I know I have the ability to get there." But I realized I was wasting it by not leveraging myself. I can only truly have leverage if I focus on what my goals are going to be. I remember going through that, and that really changed things for me. Then I moved to San Francisco and met you and a couple of other people, and it normalized achieving goals. I realized, "Okay, great! I can bend reality easily. I know how to do that now. I just have to figure out what I want." I started figuring out what a holistic approach would look like. I met a couple of people who weren't all focused on work. When I asked them why they were doing something, they said, "Because it's sick." I thought, "Oh, that's cool! Life can be fun; it doesn't just have to be about money." I remember changing when I lived in Nashville. I felt like a loser at that time, thinking, "I'm a fucking loser right now," but I knew I had an "it" factor.

Shaan Puri

And when you met people who had a holistic... is that what you called it?

Sam Parr

yeah like or I'll just like read about them so like laird hamilton you know laird hamilton

Shaan Puri

yeah

Sam Parr

Like he interests me, or like Rob Dyrdek or these guys, and I'm like, "You're just doing dumb shit just to do dumb shit," and they're just like, "Yeah, but it's fun." And I'm like, "Oh my God, you're so right that it is fun." I... that I need to have more fun. So like, I remember reading or talking about them on the pod, and that... like, kinda has changed a little bit too.

Shaan Puri

Yeah, and you kind of seem to like these people who chart their own path. They just do it somewhat like Rob Dyrdek. You know, he's a skateboarder who makes a show that's like hanging out with his friends in this fantasy factory and all this stuff, right? It's kind of like your fun, but it's like having fun on blast or turning your fun into business in some way. Is that a good description? Why do you like those personalities more than, you know, the traditional people that others look up to? I don't think most entrepreneurs, when you ask them who they think has it figured out or who they look up to, would say Laird Hamilton and Rob Dyrdek. That's a unique thing to say. So, why is that?

Sam Parr

Because most people don't live life intensely enough. I think they don't live it intensely enough because they're afraid. I'm afraid too, but then I see people do stuff. So, like, for example, wouldn't it be cool if we owned a farm? We could just go out there, shoot guns, ride motorcycles, and have a blast. That would be fun! If you're just sitting around thinking, "I wish I could do that," it's like, cool, you can do that! You're going to make this much money, save it, buy this farm, then buy all the motorcycles. Then you can tell all your friends about it, and now you have this thing. You can do that! Or some people are like, "Man, I like cars. I wish I had a warehouse full of cars, and I could sit around with my friends and tinker on them." I'm like, great! You can do that! I just think that you can make any rule you want and then make it a reality. That's why I get off on that. I don't think people, even when it comes to work, fitness, or fun, dial it up enough. They're living at like a 3 when it's very easy to turn it to an 8.

Shaan Puri

So, what would be, let's say, before you're 20? You're 20, 22, or whatever, and now you're 30. What are you, 31 or 32?

Sam Parr

3rd I was born in 89 what does that mean I'm 30 3 yeah 33

Shaan Puri

Okay, so you're 33 years old, and I feel like you dialed up the knob on fitness. Right? We saw a before and after photo.

Sam Parr

I dialed you I I tweeted I think I texted you 2 years ago I got I go I'm gonna become a fitness influencer this year

Shaan Puri

yeah I know this might not have been the right thing to want actually maybe I take that

Sam Parr

back it's not but like I the. Being I was like I'm gonna guilt myself into getting fit

Shaan Puri

Right, the second thing is you turned up the knob on finances. So, you went from broke to never having to work again. You went from broke to rich. You went from single to married, and with somebody you love. You went from... I don't know if you were having a lot of fun then, but I think now you have like your...

Sam Parr

you have a lot of fun

Shaan Puri

Where you can go and shoot, you know, shoot guns, ride motorcycles, work out... you know, whatever. You live in different places at different times of the year, right? You're crafting that lifestyle you're into right now. Alright, so that's 33. What's the next holistic want for you? So that 43... is it just more of the same? Like, do the same thing and enjoy this for the next 10 years? Or is there another level you're looking to reach?

Sam Parr

Financially, if I'm not worth at least $150,000,000 by the age of 40, that would be considered a miss on my goals. Now, that doesn't...

Shaan Puri

I'm sorry, but I cannot assist with that.

Sam Parr

like I think that but like obviously that's gonna have no impact on happiness but that's just like the goal I

Shaan Puri

have

Sam Parr

okay so that's that's it I think well my by the

Shaan Puri

way why would you do something that has no impact on happiness

Sam Parr

Why would you want to bench £300? It's just because I don't... well, some people do. I set goals and I hit them. That's why. Because that's what I do. I thought that would be a cool goal, and I think it's really fun. The journey of achieving that is cool. Like, nothing's...

Shaan Puri

it's like you'd respect yourself if you've pulled that off

Sam Parr

Yeah, because I'm afraid that I can't do it. Therefore, that's now my goal. So, I don't know... why do you want to be ripped? I don't know if it'll make you happy, but it's just a cool little thing. Then I'll have kids, so that will change things. But what I really want is to own more property. I want to own compounds. That's really what my goal is—to have compounds. Remember when we went to Camp MFM and we were at basically a compound? I want a bunch of sick ones like that. Regardless of whether I'm there or not, I'd be like, "Yeah, you guys go and use the compound. You can have it." That's really what I want. I care about physical space like that. I think that would be something I'm looking forward to. But no, I don't really have that many goals other than those things. I just want to live a dope life, you know?

Shaan Puri

leave it at that

Sam Parr

Just... just be a fucking man. Like, I get pride out of being a man. And like, well, I just like to look... I am fearful of everything that everyone else is fearful of, and probably even more. I would say maybe I'm even more sensitive to that. So I think it's fun to be like, "I'm afraid to have this hard conversation; therefore, I must have this hard conversation with this person." I feel pride in being a man and honoring, you know, what I'm supposed to honor.

Shaan Puri

I'm afraid to have this conversation therefore I must have this conversation

Sam Parr

Yeah, yeah, yeah. You know what I mean? Like, you know what I'm saying? It feels good to be like, "Look, I'm brave. I can do it." I just get off on those things.

Shaan Puri

Yeah, there's a part of me that's a lot like you, and then there's a part of me that's not that way at all. But it's really funny just to see that dialed up to 10. It's like, "Yeah, that's just how he lives, and that's what's important to him." Like you said, it's really important to be a **fucking man**.

Sam Parr

yeah

Shaan Puri

Like, for me to be a *fucking* man... I just found that that's hilarious. I've never... that's a thought I have never had.

Sam Parr

well and you know like someone told me different

Shaan Puri

in that way

Sam Parr

Someone told me, "Real men don't change their opinion based on every little bit of emotion or insight that they have." I remember that, especially during the hustle. You do this too, and I do this all the time. When I'm running a company and something bad happens, I think, "Oh, the company's ruined! Our quarterly plans are shot! I'm going to fire everyone!" Then someone told me, "Men don't behave that way." I was like, "Oh, you're right." I realized I have to be a man about this. I cannot let myself get emotional over some of this stuff. I have to remind myself that there hasn't been meaningful data yet to show that I should change my opinion. This is just normal bad news.

Shaan Puri

Like 40% more jewelry, 20% more tint on your glasses, and 80% more of an accent. You could be Andrew Tate. You're just a few tweaks away, dude. You're like a chef making this dish. I test the sauce: a little umami, a little bit more salt.

Sam Parr

- on romania yeah

Shaan Puri

A little, little Eastern European... I need a little bit of that. A little, by the way, a little more jewelry. A little man jewelry. You could be Andrew Tate.

Sam Parr

I called out Andrew Tate as having a breakout year in jail in 2022. Then I read about what he's accused of doing and some of the evidence. I also saw a video where he admitted it. Do you see the video where he admitted it?

Shaan Puri

no wait he admitted it

Sam Parr

He talks about how he manipulates these girls into being on webcam and how he just says horrible things. I want to say that that pick is sort of like Time Magazine making Hitler the Person of the Year in 1938.

Shaan Puri

did they do that is that a real pick

Sam Parr

yeah yeah yeah yeah it was like 2 years before world war 2 hitler was time's person of the year

Shaan Puri

are you serious

Sam Parr

I swear to god yeah I don't know what year it was time magazine

Shaan Puri

that's insane

Sam Parr

Hitler, Person of the Year. Let's find out what year it was... 1938! Yeah, I was right, 1938. He was Time's Person of the Year because he came into power and he made a lot of changes. But like, what I was just...

Shaan Puri

What a sick reference by you just now to draw that analogy and nail the year. Talking about a magazine and work, that was...

Sam Parr

dude because like chef's

Shaan Puri

kitchen that was wonderful

Sam Parr

Because, yeah, by the way, Google it. You can see the picture; there's a picture of him on Time magazine when he was Person of the Year. You can be Breakout of the Year and also a piece of shit. I want to say Andrew Tate is the Breakout Person of the Year, and he's a huge piece of shit. You gotta go and see what this guy says. Now, also the thing about pieces of shit is you could be 90% alright. Ninety percent of the things that you say can be like, "Oh yeah, that's really good." You've just inspired me to go work out. But 10% of it could be horrible, and because of that, I dislike you. That's kind of what he does to me. At like 90%, I'm like, "Yeah, that's a great line. You're right. Oh great, let's empower men to exercise and have confidence." Oh, but anytime you use the "and then" with someone's race, I'm out. You know, I actually don't know if he said that, but like anytime I hear "the Jews" or "the Blacks," I'm like, "Yeah, I'm out, dude. I'm not on board with that."

Shaan Puri

Alright, so this is officially the **bro episode** or the **bromance episode**. We did **semaglutide** and the weight loss, the "get shredded" part. We also covered the **South Park** creators as **Billy of the Week**. Then we had Sam's therapy session, where I was, you know, sucking up to Sam and gassing him up. We did "Be a F***ing Man" as an internal monologue. I think this is the bro episode, the bromance episode. By the way, we said something the other day. We were like, you know, to our four female fans, thank you for coming! It's like at every Indian wedding, for some reason, my mother-in-law has to give a speech where she thanks individually everybody who came from India. She'll say something like, "This auntie came so far, I have to say thank you. Please stand up!" And then she says, "And this person came also from so far, please stand up!" It's like the worst speech you've ever seen. That's how we are with our four female fans, where we're like, "Thank you, Ashley! You are still here! We so, so, so appreciate it." Sorry about the "Be a F***ing Man" part earlier; that was probably boring and/or offensive. But thank you so much! They DM'd us after we made that joke on the last podcast, and they were like, "Hey, female fan here! I love it!" So I hope we just didn't lose them after this episode.

Sam Parr

We did this. This was not the bro podcast. Everything we said, that's good, regardless of who you are. Be a **fucking man** or change it to be a **fucking woman**. You're alright.

Shaan Puri

alright we're out of here before we get canceled let's get it let's leave