How I Spend $15,000/Year To Get & Stay Ripped (As An Entrepreneur) (#366)
Fitness, Body Stacks, Discipline, and Craigslist MMA Trainer - September 23, 2022 (over 2 years ago) • 35:54
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Sam Parr | Like the idea of business and money is to live a really long and good life. The best way to do that? Money is maybe number two. Number one is just being fit.
I wanted to spend 10 minutes talking about my personal... well, I was like, what do engineers say? They say like "tech stack" or "marketing stack." Let's talk about our body stack.
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Shaan Puri | Alright, it's Friday, and we're going to do something a little different.
You know, people know us for our brains, they know us for our money, but they also know us for our bodies. So, Sam and I were doing an episode, and for some reason, we got on a 30-minute tangent about fitness as an entrepreneur—fitness as a business person.
We discussed more specifically our routines, the things that are working for us, the tactics, and the goals we have, things like that. So, we decided to make it a separate episode.
This is the body episode of "My First Million." Let us know if you like it. Sam, what are they going to get by listening to this?
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Sam Parr |
I name-drop lots of products that I pay for. None of these people have paid me. I'm more than happy to accept payment from them, so if you're... yeah, you know, MyFitnessPal? I use MyFitnessPal, I love it. So if you guys want to give me some money or...
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Shaan Puri | If you are one of these companies or a competitor to one of these companies, pay us.
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Sam Parr |
Willing to be bought. So anyway, it's a 30-minute episode... or is it 30? Maybe 20... on different fitness stuff and the things that we spend our money on to be fit. Which, basically, is kinda more important than the whole making money thing because if you're not fit and you're not healthy, you can't really do that thing. So we talked all about that.
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Shaan Puri | One of our friends, who is super successful and has been a guest on the podcast before, is worth hundreds of millions of dollars. They said something once that I can't use their name for because it's a little not politically correct. They said, "If you're rich, there's no excuse to be fat."
I asked them, "Man, you spend a lot of time working out. What are you trying to do here?" They responded, "Look, the point of having financial freedom is to be able to spend your time doing things that are luxuries—things that make your life better. One of the things that makes your life way better is having a good fitness routine and being a healthy, fit person."
So that's kind of the idea. Sam is extremely fit. Sam, you're probably in the top 1% of founders who are fit.
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Sam Parr | well yeah I mean that's | |
Shaan Puri | I I added the founder venn diagram in | |
Sam Parr | Yeah, give me that founder thing and we'll definitely call it 1%. But you know, that's an easy game to win, maybe. | |
Shaan Puri | And I've been going from pretty unfit to now, like, you know, as we say, I was the "before" photo. Now I'm just a "before" photo, and I'm getting to the "after."
So you get both perspectives. You get the perspective of somebody who's all about that life and somebody who, you know, it doesn't come easy to them, but they're making it happen.
So, yeah, enjoy the episode.
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Sam Parr | alright we live what's going on how are you | |
Shaan Puri | I'm sore | |
Sam Parr | from what | |
Shaan Puri | so I went I went on craigslist because I I had I wanted something and I think craigslist is massively underrated craigslist is so good there is if you want a job craigslist if you want a couch craigslist if you wanna learn something craigslist if you wanna hook up craigslist whatever you want craigslist has got the thing for you and it has the most liquidity so you go in there and I I was looking for a a new new chef and so I went on there and I was like new chef immediately started getting hit with things and I was like why don't I use craigslist more look at these responses this is amazing so I was like what else do I want right craigslist is my like magic lamp it's the genie and I need to go and I need to make another wish and so I go oh yeah remember that video of mark zuckerberg and so this is the part I learned from you which is describe it like a kid with no filter so I literally just put up a video I I I put up the post and I go hey I was watching I was on tiktok and I saw this video it looked awesome I wanna do that so I was like I wanna do that that looks fun and I was like will you come I was like will somebody come to my house to just like train me kinda like that yeah I don't I'm not I'm a beginner and I don't even really wanna ever fight I just think that looks like a really fun workout so I wanna do that I don't know who I need you don't have to be an expert just like somebody who could just watch that video and if you think you could do that for me then just call me or maybe text me whatever and that's how I posted so I posted that and immediately I I got a hit from some guy who's like hey I did mma for 10 years I could totally trade you he's like I trained with the diaz brothers in in stockton and you know I'm a cesar gracie purple belt I'm a striker but I was like woah okay great he's like he's like and so he calls me and I'm like alright yeah do I need like equipment or like how do I do this and he was just like no you he's like you don't need anything I was like what do you do during the day he's like I'm a handyman and I was like he's like oh this is cool because I'll get back into shape too and I was like alright sounds fun and he's like | |
Sam Parr | did he like fix a bunch of stuff afterwards at your house | |
Shaan Puri |
No, but in my mind I was like, "Dude, I've been looking for a handyman too!" Like, my wife's always on me about building and assembling things and hanging things. I was like, "This is 2 for 1, baby!" And so... which basically...
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Sam Parr | This guy is like a professor. The reason he was on Craigslist is that he was probably looking for handyman gigs.
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Shaan Puri | Yeah, exactly. He just happened to see this and was like, "Oh, I used to whoop ass."
So he goes, and what I knew would be good is when he asked, "What are you doing today?" I was mentally not prepared to immediately get into a fight today, so I said, "No, but how about tomorrow?" He replied, "Alright, I'll be there. What time?" I said, "I don't know, let's do the morning." He goes, "Great, I'll be there at 8 AM." I was like, "Shit."
So he came over, and by the way, he looked like a handyman. He showed up in his handyman boots, wearing those jeans that are covered in paint. He rolls up with a set of keys that has like 1,400 keys on it. I was like, "Bro, do you have the keys to my house? What's going on here?" He just had all these keys, and he brought his boots, and he was just like...
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Sam Parr | so he's one of these | |
Shaan Puri | guys that | |
Sam Parr | works out in his jeans or what | |
Shaan Puri | Yeah, so he basically did the whole workout in his jeans, which was crazy to me. He was throwing kicks in his combat boots, and I was like, "What the hell is going on?" But he knew what he was talking about, and so he trained me. I'm still super sore. It was incredible! I had to ice my knuckles; my hand was in so much pain last night. It was great!
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Sam Parr | don't know if this is legit | |
Shaan Puri | like a real pain | |
Sam Parr | did you did some did you do a little reference checking like I I don't know if that's how it works | |
Shaan Puri | no no I don't do reference checks | |
Sam Parr | well that's alright | |
Shaan Puri | did you guys risk at all times | |
Sam Parr | did you like wrestle or do jiu jitsu like did you roll what did you do yeah | |
Shaan Puri | He, well, he's like, "Alright, we're gonna start with the basics." He's like, "Here's how you move your feet. Here's how you throw a jab. Here's how you do a cross." And I was like, you know, you know these things, but he's like, "You know, clean it up, right? Let's do these right."
But I told him, I was like, "Dude, I don't wanna just learn tactics. I'm not here to learn technique. I'll learn just enough technique to make the session worth it." But I was like, "You know that video? I want the sweat that they were breaking. I want the way that they were breaking that sweat. A competitive sweat is what I'm looking for."
And then he hits me with this. He goes, "Yeah, I didn't watch the video, but I got an idea of what you want." I was like, "Bro, there was only one thing in the ad. It was one."
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Sam Parr | thing in | |
Shaan Puri |
The video... you didn't even watch the video? He's like, "No." But at the end, we basically sparred, and so for 10 minutes we just fought and it was amazing. My brother-in-law came... [pause] Let's just put "Pod." No, brother Aaron, he was there.
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Sam Parr | aaron he kinda like vouched or not vouched but he kinda checked the guy out | |
Shaan Puri | no not that he checked the guy out he was just like my sparring partner to do the thing | |
Sam Parr | Dude, I'm reading this, and it's so funny you're bringing this up this morning. You know, I listen to like three audiobooks a week because I like walking.
The book that I'm listening to now is called *When Violence Is the Answer* by Sanfarr, a memoir. The premise is that basically, violence is rarely the answer, but when it is, it's the only answer. When it is the only answer, you want to act fast and as violently as possible.
It just tells stories, and he's like, "I'm not teaching you tactics; we're going to talk principles." The whole book is basically about when you have to be violent, you want to annihilate them as fast as possible and take their mind completely out of the equation.
Because, like, have you ever been punched in the balls? You're like, "Oh, I can't fight; there's nothing I can think about right now." Or imagine being in a fight and just having your elbow broken. You know what I mean? You're like, "I can't do anything right now; I don't even want to think about this."
Versus a punch in the face, sometimes you could still...
Anyway, it's so funny you're doing this now because I'll have to give you the cliff notes of *When Violence Is the Answer* as soon as I dig deeper into it.
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Shaan Puri | Anyways, it was an amazing workout. I think my takeaway is about Zuck and his inner thoughts. So, Zuck went on Joe Rogan's podcast, and he was talking about it. Joe asked, "You're doing MMA now?" and Zuck replied, "Yeah, you know..." He gave some reason for starting, and then he said, "It's not like, why are you doing MMA? It's more like, now that I'm doing it, I'm like, why have I not been doing this my whole life? Because this is it. It's clearly the best."
He says it in such a computer nerd sort of way, where it's like, "I've found the best workout." It's reminiscent of that scene in *The Office* where they ask, "What is the best bear?" and the answer is, "There is a best." That's how he was saying it.
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Sam Parr | and I was like | |
Shaan Puri | Yeah, exactly. False. MMA is the best.
So, that's how I felt when he said that. I was like, "That's probably right." I like the idea of getting competitive sweat in the morning. I told the guy, "Look, I'm going to sit at my keyboard all day after this, but if I could start the day with a very intense workout—one where I can't think about anything else—right? Like, extreme focus is required. My mind is not going to be drifting around thinking about the to-do list, or this, or that, or my email. No, I'm going to be locked into this.
It's a very primal thing. I'm going to break a huge sweat, and then I can go on with my day. Everything else in my day will be much easier. I know I'm preaching to the choir with you, but I feel like that's been my realization with it. | |
Sam Parr | And so, I wanted to spend 10 minutes to bring this topic up because you sent me that gym picture, and your gym looked sick.
Like, two years ago, or a year and a half ago, you saw mine and you were like, "I'm gonna get one." And you got one! It looks awesome.
Then, like four years ago, maybe you weren't in the best shape, and you've made a big difference. So have I, in terms of fitness.
I was thinking about this guy; there's a picture of him. He's a 71-year-old named Mark. He started Primal Kitchen, I think it's called, and it's like a sauce business that I love.
But he's 71 years old, and he shared this picture of himself. He just looks great! He's not like a huge muscle guy, but he's really fit with abs and looks awesome.
I realized this is the essence of business. The essence of business and money has some practical reasons:
1. Providing for your family.
2. It's fun and fulfilling.
3. [There's more to it, but I didn't finish that thought.]
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Sam Parr |
I'd like to live a really long and good life, and really, the best way to do that... money is maybe number 2. Number 1 is just being fit. I wanted to spend 10 minutes talking about my personal... Well, it's like what engineers say, they say "tech stack," "marketing stack." Let's talk about our **body stack**.
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Shaan Puri | our our rec our rec stack not our tech stack | |
Sam Parr |
I wanted to run through all the things that I'm currently doing. I would put myself in the category of a **weekend warrior**, meaning I don't have formal education on this, but I do listen to podcasts and I read books. I'm self-educated, which means... you know, like I'm a B maybe, or not an expert, but I try to read and learn and teach myself.
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Shaan Puri | okay great go for it | |
Sam Parr |
Alright, so let me walk you through it. I'll go first and then you can go because I know you didn't prepare, so you can kind of think about it as I do it.
What I do is:
- 4 days a week of strength training
- The other 3 days, cardio
These are usually lifting weights or bodyweight stuff.
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Shaan Puri | and I do you're working out every day you're doing 7 days or you take a rest day some days you do 2 | |
Sam Parr | I do this every single day. The day that I want to rest, I'll just go for like a 15,000-step walk, which is about a 2-hour walk. That's usually my rest day.
Then, I sleep from 11 PM to 7 AM. Right now, I'm around 11 or 12% body fat, and I have a background in athletics, so I'm not like a complete noob. But I basically just learned all about this in the last 6 or 7 years. I used to just do what I was told; now I kind of know why I'm doing what I'm told.
My goals with healthy eating and working out are basically three things:
1. Live a long and healthy life.
2. Look good naked.
3. Achieve certain fun goals, like running a specific race, hitting a certain body fat percentage, or lifting a certain amount of weight.
Just fun stuff! But that's really the simple stuff too. People don't admit that they just want to look good naked, you know what I mean? That's not weird.
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Shaan Puri | that's not weird that sounds weird have to say that's not weird might be a little weird | |
Sam Parr | look I'm just saying what people think I can't find this client info | |
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Sam Parr | So, alright, here are the products that I use. I spend **$299** a month, or **$300** a month, and I have a trainer at Central Athlete, which is a place in Austin. They have an app that tells me exactly what to do. If I have questions, an injury, or I'm traveling, I text my trainer, Jesse, and say, "I'm traveling, let's adapt this workout."
Then, we meet once a month to discuss my goals for the next month. We say, "Alright, here's the goals for the next month, let's try and do this." I also outline my goals for next year and we work backwards.
The second thing I do is pay **$600** a month for a daily call from a nutritionist with my body tutor. Soon, I'm going to switch to the **$200** a month plan, which will be a once-a-week call. But for now, I spend **$600** a month, and basically, I have someone calling me every day asking, "What's the plan today for your diet? Let's work backwards from where you want to go." It's a **15-minute** call.
The third thing is that I spent around **$3,000** to **$5,000** upfront to build a home gym. Maybe it could have been **$2,500**, but I think it was probably **$3,500**.
Another thing I do is blood work. About **2 to 3 times a year**, I spend on average **$200** to **$300** on blood work through Inside Tracker. It's just a fun way to track your blood and see where you are, and if you can improve things that weren't so great the time before.
Next, I get massages **1 to 2 days a week** at a place called The Run Lab in Austin. I have a history of calf injuries, so they massage my calf. It's covered by insurance, so I only pay about **$20** each time I go.
Lastly, I do a subscription to Aaptiv. Have you heard of Aaptiv?
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Shaan Puri | yeah it's like a audio workout thing | |
Sam Parr | Yeah, I pay $100 a year for that. So whenever I'm traveling and I need to do a bodyweight workout, like I did this weekend, I say, "I want to do a 60-minute bodyweight workout," and it's like a trainer in your ears. I find that to be fun.
The next thing is I use MyFitnessPal. I track everything I eat, and I spend $60 a year on that. Then I spend $100 a year for FitBod. Whenever I do cardio, I always try to keep my heart rate right at about 145 beats per minute if I'm doing a long cardio workout because that's like perfect. I think it's Zone 3 or Zone 2; it's one of the zones that I want to stay in.
I also subscribe to Pandora. I'm like the only guy ever who pays money for Pandora. So I pay for Pandora, Spotify, YouTube, and Audible, and I listen to all those when I work out because I love doing that.
Next, I have zero budget for Whole Foods and healthy foods. Whatever I see and want, I get. I don't question the price; I just think, "I'm doing it no matter what."
Finally, I probably spend around $1,000 a year on equipment. I have lifting shoes, a lifting belt, and I replace my running shoes consistently. I buy any type of equipment that I need; I always buy it.
And then finally, I listen to Nick Bare. You know who that is? Remember that ripped dude?
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Shaan Puri | yeah he came on the pod | |
Sam Parr | Yeah, he's amazing. So, I listen to his podcast, and I listen to *Mind Body Pump*. That's another one of my favorite fitness podcasts. Then, I just follow tons of ripped dudes on Instagram.
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Shaan Puri | and you | |
Sam Parr | You know how they say you're the average of the five people you hang out with most? I feel like I'm the average of the fifty followers that I follow on Instagram. I'm constantly seeing ripped dudes and people running far and fast.
So, that's all my equipment. I'm going to wrap it up with the rules that I basically have for my fitness and health.
1. **I always have a goal with a deadline.** For example, next year my goal is going to be to run a 100-mile race. This year, it was to hit a specific body fat percentage.
2. **I always hire coaches.** If there's anything I want to learn, I hire a coach. Last year, I learned boxing and had a boxing coach. This year, I wanted to get my nutrition right, so I hired a nutritionist. I always hire a coach, no matter what.
3. **No processed foods and no sugar unless it's planned and intentional.** I know two to three weeks in advance if there's a special occasion where I want to splurge. I don't fret over money if it makes me healthier.
Finally, I'm not trying to be perfect; I'm just trying to be the least bad most of the time and intentional about when I am going to splurge. So, that's basically my whole thing. A few things in the future that I want...
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Shaan Puri | So, what does that add up to? The dollar amounts that you just mentioned, did you sum it up by any chance?
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Sam Parr | Well, I didn't have the exact cost of my home gym because I spent about $3 up front. Then, I've been buying stuff as I've gone along.
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Shaan Puri | let's call it 5 let's call it 5 grand | |
Sam Parr | we'll call it 5 then I would say I spend around $15,000 a year and | |
Shaan Puri | You know, like LeBron James has this famous stat where it's like $1,000,000 a year.
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Sam Parr | yeah he's like | |
Shaan Puri | I spent **$1,000,000** a year on my body. When that first came out, other athletes were like, "Whoa!" You know, other NBA guys were like, "I don't spend anywhere near that." But you look at LeBron; he's sort of like the pinnacle athlete in terms of physical fitness.
Even athletes in other sports, I've heard NFL guys reference that. I've met NFL guys, and they talk about how LeBron said he spends this and that. That got me thinking, "What am I spending on? Why am I not investing in my body?"
Conor McGregor has said that he heard LeBron James say he spends **$1,000,000** a year. McGregor thought, "I don't spend anything." So then he started hiring full-time staff and people and began doing the whole thing.
I think it's funny how that one person saying that triggered a kind of chain reaction. I actually think it's smart that you're sharing this because it's not our typical topic. We joke around about it, but it's not like a usual segment on the pod.
However, I think it is a big part of being an entrepreneur and a founder. Dude, that "founder 15" is real. For me, it was the "founder 45." That was real! I gained so much weight stressing out, eating wrong, and sleeping poorly. I wasn't working out because I didn't have time, and that really costs you.
So, I think it's great that you decided to do the second thing that you're going to say at the end.
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Sam Parr | Well, oh yeah, yeah, yeah. The other thing is, we didn't even talk about mental health stuff.
So, the mental health stuff... I try to write every morning. It's not like "Dear Journal." Typically, it's more like, "Here's what I want to get done today," or "I'm pretty bummed about this, this, and this," but I'm very thankful for this. So, that's my version of writing.
Then, obviously, I do lots of therapy. So, those are my mental health things.
Alright, last thing: the things I want to try.
One, an executive health checkup. Basically, you spend some number between $5,000 to $20,000 in one turn, and you go for three days to the Mayo Clinic. They just do all types of stuff to you. I'm not convinced that it's entirely needed, but I test everything, mostly for fun.
Number two, a concierge doctor. Have you ever had one of those?
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Shaan Puri | briefly I had a yeah I had a concierge doctor | |
Sam Parr |
I had a concierge... Yes, I had one when I was... One time I got really sick with Lyme disease and my face like broke. I had Bell's palsy. It was horrible.
So I spent $25... I had a concierge doctor, a doctor on call, and that was awesome. I want to get one of those.
The third thing: skin stuff. Do you do anything for your skin? Like, wear sunscreen?
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Shaan Puri | No, I don't. I haven't honestly washed my face in like 6 years.
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Sam Parr | I might be dude | |
Shaan Puri |
I might be a white guy, you know, underneath all this. This might just be the dirt that I... I gotta sit down here like people are like, "Oh, what face wash do you use?" I was like, "Yeah, if my face gets wet during the shower, it gets wet. That's the wash, bro." Like, there's not a routine.
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Sam Parr | Whatever's left over in the towel when I wipe my face off and dry it is the soap that I'm using. Dude, I don't know if it's a woman thing or if it's a black woman thing because my wife knows everything about skincare. She's like, "You gotta use this, then you gotta do this, you gotta do this." And I'm like, "Dude, that's supposed to be way too complicated. I'm not doing any of that. I'm just gonna use the hand soap."
But basically, I have to use sunscreen, she's telling me. So I want to start doing some skin stuff.
And then the last thing, dude, I want to do a 5-day fast. I was pretty inspired by John Lee Dumas. That's like on my bucket list—a 5-day fast. So those are some of the things I want to try, but that's my body stack.
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Shaan Puri | that's my that's great | |
Sam Parr | Have you heard, by the way? Have you heard how young people, instead of saying "How many people have you slept with?" they say, "What's your body count?" | |
Shaan Puri | yeah I have heard that | |
Sam Parr | it's so funny it's so funny | |
Shaan Puri | there's catching bodies yeah | |
Sam Parr |
That's where I came up with this name. It's like, "Here's my body stack," and like every TikTok, some young woman raised her hand and she goes, "Hey teacher, what's your body count?" And I... it's the funniest thing I've seen in months.
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Shaan Puri | So, go ahead. Alright, so my buddy is going through a company acquisition and he's like, "Oh yeah, you know, I'm gonna have to earn it out there, blah blah blah."
I told him, "You know, when we got acquired, I did one thing really well. I wrote down, 'Alright, I know what this year is all about. It's this acquisition, and I know this could go many ways.' I talked to a bunch of people who got acquired, and for some of them, they just got really depressed. They were bored at the acquiring company. For some people, they had a great time. Some people, it was just sort of like, 'Dude, I don't even remember. It just sort of like, you know, whatever. I don't know, that was years ago.'
Honestly, I was just kind of a zombie. I was on autopilot. I didn't really have much intention behind how I spent that year. So I said, 'Alright, I'm gonna have some intent.' I wrote this document, and I'm gonna read part of it to you. You tell me when this gets boring, and we'll switch it.
But I go, "My 2019 mindset." So this is 2019. We got acquired by Twitch.
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Sam Parr | where'd you write this | |
Shaan Puri | Just in Google Docs, at the top, I wrote a quote: "Time is what we want the most, but we use the worst."
I said this document is a chance to think about how I want to spend the next year of my life. Time is the most precious resource. Here's how I'm going to invest it:
1. Get fit enjoyably
2. Earn and learn
3. Become a great person, like Ramon
Those are my three sections. Our buddy Ramon is the honoree.
On the "Get Fit Enjoyably" section, I noted that every year I'm getting fatter, less mobile, and shortening my lifespan. This is a bad trajectory. I need to invest now, or I'm going to pay later. Hell, I'm paying right now.
I think getting fit means dropping to 185 pounds and feeling athletic. The word "enjoyably" is really important. Every time I've tried this in the past, I start, I get motivated, I take some action, and I get some results. But it's hard. I don't really like it, so I slip up and eventually give up altogether three weeks later.
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Sam Parr | you weigh then like 2:30 | |
Shaan Puri | 220... 2:25, something like that. I said, "Three weeks later, I'm back on my couch and my boxer's eating chips and quesadillas again." This cycle is bad.
Long story short, willpower is not the fuel to use. If I rely on willpower, I fail. Instead, I'm going to find a way to do this in a way that's enjoyable. Because when I like it, I'll do it.
So that means I have to figure out foods that are clean and that I actually like. I have to figure out exercises that are good and that I actually look forward to doing.
Here's what winning looks like: I want to be 185 pounds. This is what I wrote at the time. I got nowhere close to this 185 by the end of 2020, and with a new set of exercise and eating habits that I enjoy, I'm not forcing myself to maintain.
Alright, so that was the first part—a little letter to myself. I'm proud of reading this. I was like, "You know, I did not hit that goal. I'm not 185." Even now, I'm probably 212 or 213. So it doesn't even sound like much—10 pounds—but there’s a way to double that in terms of muscle mass composition versus body fat.
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Sam Parr | Jude, I'm 185. For you, a lot of people don't realize this, but you're 6'1". You think you're above 6'1"? You think, yeah, like you're that 185 would be pretty small.
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Shaan Puri | Yeah, so I don't know, I picked a number, but like specifics aside, I think I got the idea right.
When I look back, at that time, I was working out **zero** times a week. I was eating like **dog shit**, and I really didn't have even a game plan. In fact, I actually had very little evidence that this was doable for some people. If you've been in great shape before, you always have that in your back pocket. You've done this before.
Imagine never having done it, right? I never saw an ab; it was the **Loch Ness Monster** of my body. It was like, "Where is this thing?" That was where I was at.
Now, the two things that worked for me, in terms of your text and your body stack, I share two things, but I do everything else differently. I also get a coach for everything that I'm doing. I have a personal trainer, who I talk about a bunch. I have a nutritionist; I use the same one you told me about, my body tutor. I do the $200 a month plan where I text her every day.
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Sam Parr | you dig it | |
Shaan Puri | What I'm eating? I dig it! Yeah, I'm not the most consistent with it. I will forget to update it at night, and I'll update it later, but whatever, just a little late.
So, I do the coach thing. That was really, really important. And like I was saying with the MMA thing, it's the same thing. Oh, I want to do this, let me get a coach. A coach is not because you don't know how to do it; it's because it's the real way to commit to doing it.
For me, I was like, even better! I need somebody to show up at my house. So, I looked at what are the things that tripped me up. I was like, it's not like I'm going to the gym and doing a crappy workout; I'm just not going to the gym.
So, I was like, I need to find a way to go to the gym. I was like, alright, well, what if the gym came to me? I saw your home gym, and I got inspired. I was like, dude, what's the flooring you used? What's this that you bought? What's this? I asked you for every little piece.
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Sam Parr | and it was way easier than you thought wasn't it | |
Shaan Puri | oh dude I copied the exact same thing I bought the same rubber mask for my floor | |
Sam Parr | a lot of stuff | |
Shaan Puri | Wasn't a lot of stuff, and you know, a few kettlebells, this and that. Great, got it! So, I got a home gym, and then I got a trainer to come to my house. Now, obviously, this is a luxury not everybody can afford to do this, but hey, that's the point of this show. It's about building wealth and then figuring out how to use it. So, this is how to use it.
The second thing was a nutritionist. Okay, the coaching thing—I'm right on board with you. Mine was to remove friction. Find the places where the habit slips up and just literally try to get rid of that step. So, that was bringing the gym to me.
The last piece was basically, "What is the version of this I'm going to enjoy?" I had to find a trainer who I vibe with, someone I actually like hanging out with. The conversation is fun; it's not just that they're good at their job. Secondly, we do workouts that are fun for me. Sometimes he'll come over and say, "Let's go play basketball." We'll just go to 24 Hour Fitness and play pickup basketball.
It's kind of weird—it's like, "Dude, you're paying this trainer $100 to go play pickup basketball with you." It's like, yeah, I'm actually paying for me to exercise regularly and get in great shape. I'm not paying for a specific hour block of time or a specific skill set know-how.
And the same thing with MMA—it looked fun, so I decided to do MMA. We do training that's about mobility sometimes, or very simple things. I'll tell him, "Look, I told him very simply, 'What are your goals?'" I think for every other client of his, their goals are like, "I want to lose weight. I got a wedding coming up. I want to look good with my shirt off," blah, blah, blah.
I said, "When I stand up from sitting, I feel like an old man. I don't get up like an athletic person." So, that's my first goal. I want to be able to... we do this exercise on the ground, and he says, "Alright, let's get up. Let's go over here." | |
Sam Parr | I don't wanna cry | |
Shaan Puri | I want that to be like an 18. Turn. I need to just get up, not like, "Oh yep, coming, hold on." This is like, hold it straight. I gotta get on my elbow, then my knee, then put both hands on the ground too, like a tripod. Then I'm up. That's how I was moving, honestly.
And I was like, same thing when I run. I was like, "I don't know if I run right. I think my gait is all messed up." So we spent a lot of time literally fixing my walking gait, my sitting posture, or you know, my habits for the morning of how to get loose. Those things matter to me.
So I would suggest also, like, don't make your goals the cliché. Think about what actually would feel good as maybe a middle step in between you and being just absolutely ripped. That became very motivating to me, and I started to see results.
All those little things first: "Oh, I'm smoother when I run. I'm smoother when I walk. I get up more smoothly. I can crouch down in an easier way and play with my kids." I mean, I could just sit in a squat. Those things were really important.
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Sam Parr | and do you I | |
Shaan Puri | Could find somebody who knew how to train in a functional way like that. Not just, "Alright, let's do 3 sets of 12 with this heavy weight." That's it.
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Sam Parr | and do you set time aside for for like working on is it like every day at this time | |
Shaan Puri | Every day at the same time, he shows up at my house. I'm not going to be rude and leave him waiting. I have to drop what I'm doing and go do it, and that's it.
So we do it at 3 PM, but it doesn't have to be at that time. I actually prefer to move it to the morning now, but for the moment, we do it at 3.
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Sam Parr | Dude, I don't like Andrew Tate that much because I think he says some silly stuff. However, he says a lot of interesting things that I agree with. One of the things that he said, and I've been obsessing over, is: "I'm not motivated, I'm disciplined." I thought that's beautiful. That's a really beautiful idea, and it is definitely key to achieving a lot of goals, whether it's work or fitness.
It's just like, no, I just... I remember when I was starting my business. At around 2 o'clock, people would call and say, "Hey, let's go hang out." I'd be like, "Dude, I gotta work." They'd respond, "What are you talking about? You're the boss; you can do anything you want." I'd say, "It's a school night!" You know, I can't go out on a school night. We had these rules. I was like, "Bro, I work. I get there at 8 and I work until 6 usually. Then I go to dinner. I can't do these things."
I remember thinking, I'm not motivated to do this, but I'm happy that I have this routine because this is discipline. I kind of forced myself to do it. The same goes for fitness and anything else. Motivation is a really good way to get started, but it's not the best way to maintain discipline. The cool thing about discipline is you can kind of force yourself into it. You set these things up, like this guy; all you did was tell this dude to show up, and now you're...
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Shaan Puri | Like, fuck, I gotta do it. I heard this great quote on discipline.
I always thought about discipline as force—being able to force yourself to do something even if you don't want to do it. And that's true; that does happen. But that's not the definition.
Somebody said this beautifully: "Discipline is just remembering what you really want."
In the moment, you might want to just sit down and rest, or you just want to chill, or you just want to eat that bag of chips. Whatever it is, that's something you want. But what do you really want?
If you remember what you really want, then you'll go do that thing. You'll do the things that move you towards that outcome versus this outcome.
So, discipline is just remembering what you really want. It felt a lot better than thinking, "That's something I wanted to do," versus discipline being, "I forced myself to do it even when I didn't want to."
I understand that this doesn't last long for me.
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Sam Parr | yeah it goes away like the when you wake up in the morning and you're sore | |
Shaan Puri | Yeah, the other thing I was going to say, the things I do differently than you, is I don't set specific timeline deadlines.
Which is crazy to me because, like, in a business, of course, I do that. I will never set a goal without a timeline. I always ask, "When am I trying to do it by?" If anyone on my team tries to do that, I don't let them.
With fitness, I looked at it differently. I thought, "Look, I've tried that before. I've tried to say I'm going to lose this by this day." My trainer kind of taught me. He was just like, "Look, alright, how old are you?" I was like, at the time, I don't know, 32 or something like that. He said, "Alright, 32, cool. So you've had 32 years to build up these habits, and now you're looking for a 6-week revamp? Like, oh, you need this goal done in 6 weeks or in 6 months?"
He said, "The way I look at it, you spent 32 years getting here. Maybe it's going to take a little while to get there, and that's okay, right? Like, hey, what's another year? What's a year or two of working at this when you spent 30 doing it the wrong way? Couldn't we spend a few doing it the right way?"
He was sort of like, "What I don't want is for you to work out and blah, blah, blah, then you go and DoorDash some Taco Bell. Now you're feeling guilty and you're eating the wrong thing. He goes, if you're going to eat it, eat it and enjoy it. Don't bring the guilt into it."
Yeah, that's the...
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Sam Parr | shame you're doing | |
Shaan Puri | Don't feel bad about setbacks. Don't carry this mental baggage about how bad it's going to be. Just remember, when you're the dude who you're becoming, you can eat Taco Bell and it's not even going to mess with you. He said, "I could eat Taco Bell every day this week and it won't change a thing." He lifted up his shirt and said, "Still there."
That's who you're becoming. You just need to focus on that. Don't go through this emotional up and down. One day you're proud of yourself for doing well, and the next day you hate yourself for missing it. You feel guilty.
That's one way to approach it, but how about we just don't do it that way? I've taken the tortoise, not the hare, route with this. I'm putting no timelines on this. I'm making it unfailable. My only goal is to rebuild my habits of eating and exercise to be healthy, and I don't care how long that takes.
There's no such thing as setbacks; everything is progress compared to how I was before, even how I was a month ago. This has helped me a lot. It's a very strange thing because I've never chased a goal this way. I've never let myself just do it in this infinite game style where there's no clock. You're just trying to be better today than you were yesterday.
It's okay, even if you do something wrong. You learn something in that process too. It's alright. This pat on the back style? I've never tried it, but this is the first time.
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Sam Parr | In other news, we're going to be launching the "Guy Next Door" fitness plan.
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Shaan Puri | dude we should totally do that | |
Sam Parr | **Attainable. Attainable fitness. Yeah, that's what it's going to be called. Yeah, we're going to call it that.**
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Shaan Puri | it hot enough | |
Sam Parr | yeah we're gonna call it midwest 7 a new york 6 |